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06/7 Inverters

Im lookin to buy a pair? How heavy are they and how do they ride? (I ride rails more than anything, from handrails to resort rails)

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Pretty much the whole Union line is top noch. I ride the Data's and my bud rides last years Inverters. We ride at Bear Mountain where the snow sucks and if you wanna have any fun you have to be hitting the rails all day... Anyways there bindings are solid all around, just the right amount of support and flex. But if you dont wanna take my word for it find a video of Jon Kooley:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmM-EQJQe8o

He rides the force binding which is basically the same exact binding as the inverter and is super good at rails and whatnot

wtf is snow? i ride at bear

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did you really just say that in order to have fun at BEAR you have to just hit rails allday???holy shit.That mountain was like disneyland last year.I recommend you learn how to turn and check some other parts of the mountain out.

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did you really just say that in order to have fun at BEAR you have to just hit rails allday???holy shit.That mountain was like disneyland last year.I recommend you learn how to turn and check some other parts of the mountain out.

Ayo

I would recommend a stronger binding, something the likes of aluminum. Plastic might blow up on you after riding super hard, Ride makes dope binders, check the Delta's. Money in the bank son.

The Inverters are soft enough for flex but a little heavy since they are plastic.

Boo Yah!

All plastic bindings explode.

All plastic bindings explode. That's great info. Just as reliable as your post stating that there were no differences between the Stairmaster and the Extreme other than graphics.

If the Deltas are anything like my old Tomcats, they should win the "Most Uadjustable Binding of the Year" Award, no sweat.

My old Flights and Tomcats were decent, but they don't hold a candle to any of my Union bindings. (And on that note, hopefully the Deltas are not the equivalent of old Tomcats or the Flight Series because they have very little give, and this kid wants to hit up rails. The Unions have a killer freestyle flex that still works all over the hill though.) The Inverters are no heavier than your regular bindings, and are in fact probably a tad lighter, if that's even important.

If for some reason you do encounter any breaks, Johan at C3 will hook you up with free replacement parts faster than you know it. I would consider the Force over the Inverters though, as the toestraps seemed a little more cush on the Force, and the Force are a bit cheaper.

Since..

Plastic bindings last so long, why do I see more Burton and other plastic users back in my shop for warrantee over anyone who uses aluminum? Why do I see more cracked baseplates from plastic users over Aluminum? The new Delta's are not like the old Flight series, they are part of the new MVMT series which is dedicated to freestyle, full adjustable toe and ankle straps. So they are soft and they go up in flex as the price goes up as some people prefer different flexes in the park.

You are most correct in your statement, " The Unions have a killer freestyle flex". That is most correct, as plastic is going to be super soft and malleable as compared to an aluminum binding.

And why would he have to replace your parts for free? Is your binding going to break? Thats pretty bad if you have to give away your parts, does that mean the manufacturers are expecting them to break? Like Technine and Flow?

Sorry for the slight over sight on the Stairmaster. Pleease forgive me

Boo Yah!

I forgot to tighten my screws

I forgot to tighten my screws and lost one. In less than a week, I had more than enough screws and a whole damn care package of Capita/Union/DefCon propaganda. Some of the best customer service I've experienced yet. Your post makes it sound like Ride doesn't do this (for free, at least - but I hope that's wrong because Ride had decent customer service when I dealt with them).

Why are the Deltas able to flex so much? Is it because they have plastic on them, which you've already claimed is inferior? Or, is it because the aluminum is thinner? Thin aluminum is far from invincible: It's malleable. It's still rigid and not very forgiving, but when it bends, it doesn't bend back and it weakens, especially in extreme cold.

Or, are the Deltas not really that flexible to begin with? In which case, we shouldn't be recommending them to a guy who wants to hit rails unless his last name is Flood.

Ride's high-end aluminum disks and baseplates never provided me the even, clean flex across the board. It was as if I had deadspots underneath my bindings. I never even knew it until I tried some Unions, might first non-aluminum baseplate/disk binding. (And Union still uses aluminum - extruded aluminum, to be exact - in the heelcups, which is great and where I want my stiffness.)

To each his own I say, be it aluminum or plastic. I just had to pipe up when I saw an aluminum binding being recommended to a kid who wants to hit rails and saw plastic being damned as an inferior material on all accounts.

Yeah

I never said the high backs were not plastic, but they still mill those out stronger than most plastic bindings out on the market. I never once questioned Ride's CS, so please, grow up and do not put words in my mouth.

With that said, about the flex of the baseplates, you rode the Flight series, which was an aggressive big mountain binding, not the new MVMT series, please check them out then get back to be me before you bad mouth them.

I have had too many plastic bindings break on me, if plastic was so good, then why would all designs made by Ride fail when made with plastic? Can you explain that one to me?

With the heelcups, every manufacturer in the world uses metal in the heelcup, that is completely irrelevant to the point at matter right now.

I know you are stepping up for this rail hitter, but please do not bad mouth a product that you have never used, the entire MVMT series is dedicated to freestyle, check them out

I have a little bit of room to talk since I see so many plastic bindings come back broken, and I know for a fact that the MVMT series would rock it for this young chap

ps. The Delta's have the same stiffness similar to the Unions, but it is a more fluid flex and sold binding.

Boo Yah!

Union = Durable

Union uses aluminum in the base and in the heelcup. And magnesium buckles. The plastic they use is the best plastic I've seen for this level of sport. It's what they put in lacrosse heads, at least a few years ago when lacrosse companies used DuPont Zytel. They take more wear and tear than bindings by far (which is why they break after about a year instead of 3 or 4 or more for bindings).

Union's metal heelcup is much stronger. My Drake MLB heelcups were already getting torqued after one year, but my Inverters are freaking intense. Only issue I'm having is the toe strap on my right binder getting torn by the ladder on the strap, merely cosmetic, and my screw heads getting messed up because I don't own the right size screwdriver to adjust my bindings. So, replacing 2 screws? Yeah, that's nothing for one year of intense riding of all terrain in all conditions. You're going against Union without even trying them or knowing their durability history. They probably make much less money per binding than Burton, Ride, K2 or others because of the quality of material. They've got me as a lifetime customer, that's for sure. One of the Union guys was dropping off product at Milo in SLC and I got a chance to talk to him - those guys care about their stuff a freaking ton. I can't praise Union enough.

airblasted.blogspot.com is my blog. It's ugly and lame right now.

I just hope it loads.

I actually commended Ride's c

I actually commended Ride's customer service. Please read again if you had any misunderstanding.

Bad mouth a product by Ride? I haven't badmouthed any of their new stuff because I have yet to try it. Feel free to direct-quote me where I badmouthed their product because I do not see any of the sort. (I can say whatever I want about their old stuff, as I have seasons on those.) I did however contest your one-dimensional blanket statements of 'aluminum over plastics'. I'm sorry you took that personally.

I'm glad to hear Ride's bindings are improving because I haven't been on them in a few years, especially after their ratchets. (The ratchets on my Flights were downright magical, but my last-season Tomcats were problematic from the get-go, and I wasn't the only one in that boat.)

I'll say it again: If you dig aluminum, cool. If I dig high-end plastics, fine. Each has their pro's and con's.

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I'll do some badmouthing . . Rides are f@@kink sh!thouse binders

Union rock.

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they're not Jock enough for you faggot, not enough flex.