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Posted on August 11 2007 at 12:09pm by Pancho
Neil Rankin, Ron Bureta and Kurt Wastell. What started out as a wild thread on the web site last summer finally came to fruition last weekend with the Solid reunion in Denver and Fairplay, Colorado. Solid Mfg.Co. was one of the original rider owned and operated snowboard companies of the early 1990s, started by a 20-year old snowboarder named Neil Rankin and a close group of friends. With riders like Jeff and Kurt Wastell, Tarquin Robbins, Willie McMillion and a heavily skate influenced image, Solid established itself as one of the most sought after brands of the time. They quickly went from a fledgling start-up to a company with over a million dollars in sales in a matter of months.
With orders for thousands of boards from Japanese distributors and a strong local following the number of employees in the small mountain town went from 10 to over 100 in just a couple years. Even future pros like Mikey LeBlanc spent time pressing boards up in the factory. But with the rapid expansion and inexperience of the young crew, it soon got out of control. Between quality issues, mismanaged funds and investor setbacks, after only three short years, Solid was forced to go out of business. “The growth was so explosive,” Neil recalls. “We knew how to make boards in low numbers but when we went to doing two and three shifts per day, we lost control of the profit. Plus the production on our biggest year started four months late because we had a conflict with one of our partners, and we were forced to play catch up. Eventually it killed us.” Ever since the factory doors closed, Rankin and Wastell have always talked about bringing Solid back to life. That day has finally come.
Kurt, Matt Hale, Jeff Wastell and Rankin. With so many rumors of what is really going on with Solid, it was time to set the record straight. Amidst deafening gunshots at a campsite in the backwoods of South Park County, I sat down with Neil, Kurt and their new manufacturing partner Ron Bureta to talk about their plans for re-launching the brand.
“Look Public Advisor, you’re a fat lumpy piece of shit,” was Kurt’s response to an Internet user who’s quick to stir up the rumor fire. “The boards are made in California, not China.” After all this time, Kurt’s taken charge and is ready to get back on a Solid Snowboard. His dedication to the history of the brand is evident by a pair of arm tattoos featuring his early board graphics. “It’s been in the works for years,” he explains. “It seems like it’s a really good time for a company like Solid to come back,” adds Ron. “It’s something different. Everyone’s following everybody and Solid was always its own thing.” Ron Bureta has a long history in the snowboard industry as well, and though not directly involved with Solid in its heyday, he comes from the same era of do-it-yourself snowboard brands. In the past, he rode for companies like Barfoot, Division 23, and Ignition, teammates at the time with a young Matt and Danny Kass.
Kurt Wastell has an equally long history as an accomplished pro rider and industry veteran. After bouncing from board to board since Solid’s demise, first to World Industries, then Sims, and most recently Sapient, Kurt has experienced his fair share of problems with corporate sponsorship. “It’s all these fuckheads that get a hold of some money and just come in way too hot,” says Kurt. “But they don’t give a shit about anything. They put all this time into riders and then they just get rid of them. “It’s just a name on a piece of paper,” Neil injects. “Eventually it’s always time to get rid of the expensive pros and bring in some new guys.” With Kurt’s latest board sponsor Sapient, the disassociation between the riders and company management was the biggest problem. “I never really talked to them, I don’t even know them,” he explains. “We never even had a team manager. That’s the one thing that I hated about Sapient, they never made an effort to be bros at all. Ever, never once. Despite a steady stream of published shots, video parts with Absinthe Films movies and respect throughout the industry, Kurt has always had bad luck when it comes to sponsorship support. Aside from the Sapient fallout, he was the latest casualty of Spy Optics after team manager Chris Saydah’s departure. “Not to dis Canadians [referring to new management at Spy], but I’m over ‘em,” he says. “I mean, look at skaters. Companies are so rad to skaters.” “It’s more like a family, everybody knows each other, everyone respects each other,” adds Neil. “We’re gonna go back to doing it how we did it originally, which was more of a team that’s a family. Good friends that all respect each other.”
Dave Tuck put on a good slide show of classic team pics.
Jeff Wastell classic Hood method, circa '94.
Mean Bruce.
Matt Hale.
Dave Tuck fs lien to tail.
Tarquin Robbins lien fs 360. Ron agrees that the same formula doesn’t apply to the Solid way of thinking. “A lot of people come in with a lot of money and think they can just buy riders and be cool.” That’s what so many companies have done; some have succeeded, others have failed. But moving forward the Solid program will be on a different path. With little investment capital and only a few samples for now, the Solid team will have to be built from the inside out. “No one’s getting a huge salary,” says Kurt. “It’s gonna be strictly sales driven. Companies spend so much money on dumb stuff, whereas we can do a lot of the stuff ourselves.” As far as riders go, besides Kurt of course, they have offered a contract to longtime Summit County local Chad Otterstrom, a good friend of the Solid family. Instead of a traditional salary position, the contract includes royalties of his board sales and percentage of the company’s net profits. “That way everyone is pushing the company not just promoting themselves,” explains Ron. “We haven’t been pressuring him at all, we just talked to him. There ‘s a contract on the table…that’s it.”
Placer Valley.
Fairplay skatepark.
The old factory.
Whoever the team eventually includes, the Solid formula is not based on slick marketing schemes or big money advertising campaigns. This time around, the boys at Solid are starting out small and staying true to their roots as riders who run their own show. For the time being all three have separate full time jobs and a life outside of snowboarding, with Ron at the power company, Neil at a design firm and Kurt picking up some landscape irrigation work in the summer to supplement his snowboard income.
Jeff Wastell at the Fairplay skatepark, August 5th 2007.
Kurt frontside grind over the bench.
Jeff in the cradel. “We’re really blue collar, “ says Neil. “We’d like to bring the dirt bag element back into snowboarding.” “Yeah, I’m doin’ Marlex to make up for Spy,” adds Kurt. With Ron holding down the majority of the workload up to this point, like coordinating snowboard production samples and preparing to show at the upcoming SIA Tradeshow, the three plan on giving Solid a proper go around one more time. Many people still involved in snowboarding, whether they’re shop owners, pro riders or simply fans of the boards, remember Solid for what it was and hopefully support the idea of another independent brand going up against the corporate big wigs. “We’re just gonna test the water, see how it goes," says Kurt. “I’ve been going into shops and had lots of people ask me when they can place an order. I’m direct, you know.”
Soild reunion man camp. CLICK HERE to see a video from the reunion.
Willie loves his meat.
Surf's up, Colorado style.
Lotta firepower
Ebbinghaus.
Jeff T-Bar Cattrack gap at Breck.
Peterbolts.
The Alves' Bros lowrider bike.
Jack Wastell, next gen ripper.
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Here's hoping Solid can recapture the hype from more than a decade ago. The Alves brothers always had the shortest parts in early Whitey videos, but they made them count with style.
now we're talkin..
nice work on this......
no matter what, im stoked to see you guys doin it your way....
you know i'll have one under my feet, homies... foreal.
-cjs
Solid Mfg
Just wanted to thank everybody for all the good times and especially Tuck for getting all of us together last weekend. Just like old times - we need to do this again soon.
–rankin
yep
i agree with drago. fucking goosebumps. you killed it pancho. there is hope for snowboarding at this point. and yes, i almost cried. "almost"
sorry i left the reunion without saying goodbye.
just couldnt do it.
Thanks Guys
Everyone at SNOWBOARD has love for the Solid family.
Glad you all enjoyed the trip down memory lane.
Fight for the little guy - Read SNOWBOARD Magazine!
hell
yeah.
Jeff Wastell
http://www.solidsnowboards.com/
rankin lives
you rule dude!
Solid
Fuck yes, the best company ever! I did the art for one season and it was the best company I've ever worked for. I'm glad to here rumors of Solid coming back. I hope it's true. I did get a call today from Neil. He left a mesage with my wife to return his call. I hope it's what I think it is.
SOLID !!
Thanks for a great weekend. Great to see everyone I used to hang and ride with. Stoked to be a part of the rebirth of Solid and I will work my ass off to keep it Solid.
Ron B
ladies
fuck rankin, it aint over til the fat lady sings........lets do it again man! jeff
holy pancho...
...such an epic job lawrence, well done amigo. i seriously get goosebumps, along with a few tears, over this. i am so proud to say i "grew up" around some of the best here in breckenridge, learning how to really stand up a frontside 5'O grind the proper way by watching jeff, kurt, neil, and furlong at BIGFISH. i'm lost for more words. i have tears of joy...
sign me up!!!
This is the the firt time in a long time I've been genuinely excited about anything that has to do with snowboarding.I, for one will be on one of these new solid boards ASAP.This is what snowboarding needs right now.I'm getting my flannel out as we speak to get ready for the hessian revolution.And I'm happy as hell.
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Agree with Scott... first time in years that i have been really stoked about anything going down in the industry . . . when i was a young euro pup the Solid MFG team represented everything that i wanted to do on the mountain, at a time when Europe was still a hardboot heaven here was a group of guys who saw the mountain in the same way i saw it and rode the hill like i wanted to ride it, and represented the same vibe that me and my crew got when we hit the mountain . . we could relate to these guys, and in many ways the early demise of the Solid was representative of the watershead moment when to me Snowboarding turned the corner from being a small community of like minded people to a full on corporate mainstream sport.
I think to alot of us older dudes (i am only 28 but feel old by the way most companies average team age and marketing demographic is) have been waiting for this to a happen, for a company that is going to build boards for the way we ride, and with no bullshit attached. I have no interest in doing a nose press down a triple kink, no interest in doing a switch 10 over chads gap, i just want to shred as hard as i can till my body gives up on me, and i want to ride shit from a company that understands that.
I really hope you guys succeed, and i for one will be supporting you by buying Solid product from the moment it hits the slopes.
///™
nice eski.
Craig Kelly (and fat girls) Forever.
right on
solid is back ! stoked on what i read. i am backin it !
i'm telling the pole.
i'm telling the pole.
Welcome Back.......
Wow,
If if this had happened four years ago I would have left Ken at Joyride and walked right up to your door and asked for a job!
I will say this to Ron... (since I have never personally known or met any of the others trying to bring Solid back.)
KEEP IT UP!
The more riders buying into companies that actually support snowboarding will spell (at least for the interim) the end of small appliance, shoe stores, bike companies...etc trying to milk what we love for every dollar they can squeeze out of it.
I'll see you up on Copper Bowl or Chair Six at Breck this winter??? I'll pour the beer when the riding is done!!!!
The spotlight is back on Colorado, its roots and heritage, legacy and the companies it continues to spawn....(or re-spawn in your case)
Cheers!!!!
ha..ha....ha.....ha.....ha
The Lucid Notion Snowboard Company
AND IF YOU MYSPACE:
The Lucid Notion Snowboard Company's Silly MySpace Site
///™ powdery fields of joyriders...
you dudes seem chill at lucid and that's a cool thing.
Craig Kelly (and fat girls) Forever.
We're Tryin' That's for sure....
Thanks for the kind words LJJ. It's snowboarding... it should be fun and chill!
D...
ha..ha....ha.....ha.....ha
The Lucid Notion Snowboard Company
AND IF YOU MYSPACE:
The Lucid Notion Snowboard Company's Silly MySpace Site
Super Solid - Snowboard Companies for Snowboarders!
I heard the rumors and now I had a good read with my coffee. I can't wait to see the boards on the hill. Will they come with T-Bolt stance options? I want to skate that park.
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow man, that was an insane amount of greatness. I can't believe how much fun I had with the whole crew in Colorado. I really missed all those times a ton and felt like they were back in action last weekend. Hey Canadians/friends, what MANchez is trying to say is pretty obvious but may seem like a diss to everyone their which is not the case, its just a couple of events and a few people that really just wasted a bunch of my time. Anyways, that video made me laugh out loud......MANkin and MANretta, lets do this......KW.......
yeoh
manstell, mankin, manretta. a manoj made in heaven.
manly
and willie, it was a pleasure to have you party down in the MAN ROOM!!!!!!
Awesome!!
I just wanted to say I am glad you kids are back! one of the first snowboards I ever bought was a solid 145 with the maroon fake woodgrain topsheet with the picture in the middle. It was peter-bolted with Technine 3 piece baseless bindings. Amazing! I also bought it at Cal Surf in Minnesota from good man Scott who runs the joint. I loved it, and wish i still had it. Oh well. good luck and I can't wait to see the new boards!!
tedore
Dreams do come true
Rankin.....
If this is true it is amazing. Holy shit, I hope you guys keep the 75 degree kick on the nose like teh old days.
Congrats to all you guys.
too short
it was great to see the crew. what an awesome weekend!! too damn bad it wasn't a whole week. thanks MATTY GASSER for letting us fill your hillside with lead!!!!!!!
HECK YA
Man, that land is something else, thanks to matty for sure....I wish I owned the factory in fairplay....KW.......
franzen's word...
...it may still be available...
This is so freakin
NEATO!! Solid coming back?? I had the pleasure( Thanks Neil) to work at Solid, and I must say it was one of the funnest experiences ever. For years some of us factory guys( Eli, Justin, punkrock Tony, etc) have been wishing that Solid was still around. I heard about this reunion thingy awhile back, but we thought it just faded out. Im glad to see that it didnt. Great job on this post Pancho, super nice. Snowboarding really needs this, you have my support 110% Is there by chance a red house across the street from the new factory??
-Jon
No More Red Barn
It's like a fuckin gift shop now.
Here it is from the cab of my new '91 Jeep CoMANche with Rankin sittin' shotgun.
I'm bringing it way back with this thing.
Fight for the little guy - Read SNOWBOARD Magazine!
Ah...
Memories. That guy Will that owned that place was the coolest landlord on earth. He didnt even care that we built a mini-ramp right into the floor. I still have scars on my hands from scraping my hands on the celing. Thanks for getting the pic Pancho. -jon
should have known
The baddest company ever bringing it back.It was good to see all you guys on the post.Talk about bringing back some good old memories,I almost jerked a tear out when I saw all you guys.Wish I could have been there.Its nice to see something SOLID again in this blown out jock sport.Thanks for the memories,some of the best ones in my life so far.Thanx to rankin for bringing me into the family,your the man.
Keep that shit backwoods
Uriah
Next Time....
We'll be there. It just gives me goose bumps to think back at that time, we laid the law down in the factory, and on the Mtn. - And there is no way anyone can take that away from us.
Jonny B.
Jonny
Im rollin with ya.Lets fish soon.Prosser creek is on fire.
Yoooks
BLOWN OUT JOCK SPORT
URIAH, IS IT COOL IF I MAKE THAT INTO A T-SHIRT?
print that shit up.
print that shit up.
F yeah
Damn this brings back great memories of everyone busting ass to create a brand that we were all passionate about. I'm stoked to see that Solid will live again and look forward to the new line. Company wide reunion someday? Here's a few pic that I scanned...funny to think a digital camera wasn't even around then...
Truckin'
Grindin'
Workin'
-Pete
Solid Mfg. Christmas in the Ghetto
http://www.snowboard-mag.com/node/7417
72 K-5 Blazer cst
Yeah Pete! Forgot about that time, thanks for sharing.
Jonny B.
what up butter
Hey Dude, you were missed...yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaught......KW
What up Kurt
Thanks for the love, and next time you can throw down some laps on my CRF - You will fuckin love that machine.
I'll never forget when we out glided those world cup skiers on Flap Jack coming out of Peak 10, they were so jealous that one of them pushed me into the maze at the chair lift. The guy was like twice as tall as you and you dropped the barney with one punch while still having one foot strapped on the board. Now that was way Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaght!
JB
FINISHING ROOM
While in Fairplay, Pancho and I stopped by the old building to see what up.
The finishing area is now a karate dojo!
///™ Dude, where are my Burning Snow jeans?
epic pictures and a nice write-up, pancho.
i am stoked for you guys, making this happen is a dream come true or so i would imagine; having control of your own company and its direction, working alongside your friends, bringing back (literally) 'the colorado days'-thank you, and being able to develop innovative shapes (like the flat kick nose and tail design, etc.) to just hanging out and having a beer at the end of a day’s riding.
seeing some of you dudes rip the shit out of breckenridge's spine from like 92/93 (with the log on top of it-like anyone is going to remember that) motivated me and made me want to learn more innovative approaches to all terrain aspects (like j.b.’s log shredding, hale’s big, slow-ass back 180s and the list goes on)...for that alone i will always be a supporter. i really associate solid, and its riders with being pioneers of bringing skateboarding to the snow.
shit, this probably all sounds lame. whatever, i was stoked then and am even more stoked on the comeback of solid mfg. now.
hold a 59 for me.
Craig Kelly (and fat girls) Forever.
Wood Cutters
Looks like the Logging Masters just landed itself its first official sponsor (I hope).
And I am going to need a Solid MFG. patch for my flannel-any lying around?
Them logs need bowing®.
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Just got 08 buyers guide issue of Onboard magazine, and Chad is wearing a Solid New Era in the Bonfire ad
thats a...
...negative.
No New Era...yet.
It's gotta be an old school one. Snap back and all.
Fight for the little guy - Read SNOWBOARD Magazine!
foam...
...mesh. and dirty.
SOLID
love it. i can't wait for the boards to be available. great post.
just let me know where i can buy one
a couple of friends and I moved to Summit Co in summer 93... we met some of this Breckenridge crew at that outdoor skatepark in the summer and then rode with a few of them in the winter, and it was fun. I always regret not buying a Solid board...especially when I see that windbreaker I still have (metallica logo)... speaking of which: where is that thing?
And to dude above: I remember that spine with the log on top...and those three log rides they had at the start...and the first time I had rolling rock--we got the rock climber weirdo who lived in our employee housing to buy it for us...and the times i got snuck into that underground bar and drank booze and walked home in the sub-zero temps...and massive bomber runs down that ledges run with the starting hut cat track gap hollerback...
I also remember this bearded dude Hale killing Vail tree runs one day, riding a Solid mounted backwards...
but yeah, what's up, and I want to buy one...who's gonna sell one in seattle?
this stokes me out!
I want to be 18 again, obviously... but still... "I was there!" hahaha
ps I dont read snowboard magazines anymore, I don't really understand what's going on, but read an issue of this here one and I could tell somebody knowed whattup...is cool.