Dont Burton hook em up with binders anyway - they all seem to be riding next years binders already, and how do they get their hand on em without some sort of Burton help . . I know that if over here you drop a line to Innsbruck and tell em you ride for so and so but want some cartels you will find a set winging there way to you pronto.

I think Burton binders are kinda the safe bet of the binding world, nothing wrong with em and do what they say on the box,a lot of pros i know use em because they know they will work, and they dont have time to try out a load of others, or the money to buy em either especially when Burton will hook you up for free

Personally i fall more and more in love with my Unions every day, and cant wait to try out the new Contact model they are bringing out next year

Yea.... MmmmMMmmMmMMMMmmmm... good enough??

Seriously though. I got the Ride Deltas last year and lemme tell you... lovin' it. The ankle strap is super soft-gel and the "convertable" toe cap/strap (roll with the top down now..) makes it feel like the binder is making sweet love to my feet.

Had a pair of DC Park boots first with them, super niceeeeeee. These binders are easy adjustment. Second pair of boots is 32 TM-TWO and they are still super responsive with the setup.

Only down side, and to be unbiased (yea right) my issue has to be known... Who the hell puts an Allen Bolt, not to mention TWO(2) different sized heads, for the heel cup??? Oh yea... the Ride Deltas... FUCK ME... they loosen up sometimes, which is ok because I am not a small guy so fiddling with stuff is normal. Damnit though, having to keep on top of those is a pain in the ass. Carrying two more tools? Albeit small tools, but still. ARGH.

LOVE THEM THOUGH! ;P

unions - i need a new pair - my current ones are feeling the effects of constant love

ive had two pairs of cartels, and im on my second pair of unions, unions are so much nicer!!

that's funny... my cartels lasted me 80 plus days over three seasons. and yes, i guarantee i ride just as hard as you.

id rather have unions that last 120+ days in one season that burtons that last 80 over 3 seasons. you might ride hard but you sure as hell don't ride enough. hahaha

i had my days once! it sucks getting older! i've had my fair share of days riding, but once you have to start paying all your own bills and actually start considering your future, you gotta cut back on the days. one of those seasons was also cut considerably short due to a spraining every muscle in both my hips, worst injury ever!

but yeah, ride as many days as you can, for as long as you can, while age is on your side. and twenty+ days a season is more than a lot of people get.

as far as the bindings go, they still had life in them. i sold them, and upgraded to the new h2o's and love them.

i didn't know this turned into a contest to see who's dick is bigger. i am sure you ride just as hard as me and fuck you probably ride harder, and its great that your bindings worked out well for you but i still feel like the cartel is just an overpriced piece of plastic....thanks for the compassion.

no one turned it into that. just letting you know that i don't baby my bindings. chill out.

i just felt like you were trying to vibe me out. i have no hard feelings or anything, i just am ready to move on to something new....hopefully something that will better suit my tame riding style....just playing.

I second that, my Cartels have treated me great. Considering how light they are, they are bomber. I'd love to see a picture of this supposedly cracking heelcup.

well i just don't understand why you guys are so offended by my feelings for these bindings. i am though quite sure that this supposed crack does supposedly exist, but you know i could have been drunk when i thought i had seen it. anything is possible when you are a few blatz deep.

seems like you're the one getting offended by our opposite point of views on the bindings. sorry you got a pair that didn't hold up for you. did you not try and get them warrantied?

How i am offended? if you like Cartels then ride em , if you dont , then dont

Wasnt interestead in getting another pair after what i had experianced, plus once i had tried out some Salomon SPX Pros there was no way i ws going back to any Burton binding - imo the baseplate on the cartel is too stiff and doesnt have enough give so they tend to snap a little easier than other bindings, especialy when combined with the old locking flad - i rocked missions for a couple of years and didnt have the same problem

Plus if you look at a set of Unions or Salomons the hardwear and build quality is miles better than anything Burton has - fact is i trust my unions and salomons to do the job, and i just cant say that about a set of Cartels

wait... what... that reply wasn't towards you.

good thoughts on what the cartels problem might be though.

I had 2 sets of 05/06 Cartels where the heelcup snapped - also has a heel strap ratchet go after about 20 days