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Alta - smartest resort in Utah

Many snowboarders seem to be under the misconception that Alta will eventually have to open its doors to boarders for financial and/or legal reasons. Not so. There are more than enough serious skiers (the type Alta has always attracted) who feel very strongly about being able to enjoy the slopes without having to worry about the danger and annoyance of reckless snowboarders. I ski Alta almost exclusively, but when I do stray over to Snowbird on a powder day, there are some things I can’t help noticing...things that are ever-present at Snowbird now. Things like always getting “taken out” by a snowboarder at least once during any given day, or the way snowboarders destroy traverses, or how a single snowboarder will in seconds lay waste to a beautiful run of uncut powder that could have been enjoyed by a dozen skiers who wouldn’t have crossed another skiers tracks. Skiers have a right to keep the last few blessed places where those things don’t happen.

Saying Alta discriminates against boarders is absurd. It’s like saying they discriminate against bobsledders. If other resorts make a mistake, it doesn’t mean Alta has a legal obligation to make the same mistake. Alta has always been, and will forever be for skiers. And Alta will continue to build its niche of skiers who want to ski the greatest ski resort in the world WITHOUT snowboarders.

If there is a God, Alta will forever remain FREE.

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Take your head out of your ass!

Hey ther "Lou Dog"; yeah your cool. What are you,80? MONEY DRIVES THE WORLD, SO THEY WILL EVENTUALLY "GIVE IN". Taos this year, your time is a comming up. Also, I work in the industry and it is Douchebags like you who make waves in something great. If it wasn't for snowboarding, you would still be on straight skis sucking at turning and sinking to the bottom on a pow day. So Recognize; and stop being a fucking asshole!

pathetic

all this because some 12 year olds went to your site and talked shit. you sure showed them now, you manly man you.

i don't know but i smell a fake or you truly are that pathetic.

Free, huh?

I'm not quite sure you understand what 'a god' and 'freedom' are really meant to be about. Sounds like your mind is as narrow as the planks you're trying to figure skate on- good luck w/that one homer!

(.)(.)

You have it all wrong, we LIKE having all you faggots in the same place and OUT of our way. cheers, Daffy-Twister-Spread4Lyfe

Alta is for douchebags. Let 'em have it.

Hey pussy, check this out...
http://www.transworldsnowboarding.com/snow/photos/slideshow/0,26821,1704357,00.html

Although I'll never go there, Alta is inevitable, fag!

ALTA BOY IS...

SM allta LK. Im sure all of you older guys remember the battle it used to be when this shit first started getting, going on at your local areas. how many skiers have you seen get clocked in the mouth in the early 90"s. Or heard the stories. Sounds like this kid is about 16 years old and hates snowboarders because he has been hearing the story,for the last 15 years from his dad about the time at Breckenridge when Kurt Wastell broke his nose in the lift line.

Never heard the stories...

...but that's all they are.

Fairy flute

I don't have near enough time to even read all the BS this fool has thrown up here, but he obviously has more time on his hands than anyone I've ever seen, which he seems to be spending on his keyboard, not on the hill.

I'm throwing it out there that by posting this and saying all the ridiculous stuff you have said, you have given a lot of people a bad name that probably don't deserve it. My roomate has an alta sticker on her car. If I didn't know her and know she was cool, and know that she doesn't care that I snowboard and such, I'd now be quite inclined to rip the sticker off, vandalize her car, or cover it up with something else. You've stirred some heavy emotions that many people probably don't deserve to be on the receiving end of. Do you really think everyone with an Alta pass shares your views? They surely don't, and I'm sure a ton of them would be embarrassed by your comments. In my opinion, you saying such things, and backing them up with the juvenile trash talking you've done below, you are a terrible person. What ever prompted you to get on here and post this? Is there some kind of "Allow Snowboarding at Alta" movement going on? Cause I'm not aware of any such thing, and I'm pretty sure there isn't going to be one any time soon. Its a bummer that you feel this way, cause I know plenty of skiers and Alta pass holders who are totally cool with snowboarders, and some who even prefer to ride with them. Your kind are obviously becoming an extreme minority.

I don't know what your deal is. From your original post, I would think your a 60 year-old old timer who can't handle change. But from all these retarded replies you've left people below, you must a 15 old rich papas boy who heard your pompous dad chatting with his venture capital buddies about this, and decided you'd spearhead the online awareness campaign. Keep riding alta, be stoked that we're all telling you to (because hurray thats just what you wanted), and hope no one ever finds out who you are. You're a genuine douche bag, and if you have the balls (which you couldn't possibly) to treat real people this way, you'll get whats coming to you soon enough. This is really unbelievable.

Are you serious?

"Is there some kind of "Allow Snowboarding at Alta" movement going on? Cause I'm not aware of any such thing, and I'm pretty sure there isn't going to be one any time soon."

Seriously? You must live in middle earth or something. You're a snowboarder and you haven't heard about Burton's $10,000 challenge for snowboarders to poach the thre remaining board-free resports? My initial post was in response to another thread in this forum titled "Alta - dumbest resort in Utah". That kinda crap is all over the Net. "Free Alta" bumper stickers are all over cars in the Snowbird parking lot. It's hard to miss.

Middle Earth?

Did you seriously just say that? Wow. This REALLY IS some little ski fag. Just go die.

Skiers banned at Brighton

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

No loss there

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Exactly how I fell about Alta

I have never once wanted to go to Alta and never will.
Snowbird, The Canyons, Park City, Brighton tons of Backcounty and you think people are just wanting to go to ALTA..sorry buddy ...
I am glad you have a place that you enjoy, so go enjoy it and
stop wasting space on a snowboard website, or you might start to like it.

dude why dont you say this to

dude why dont you say this to someone in person so you can get your fucking face stomped instead of just talking shit online boasting about how sick it is to strap those dangerous harpoons to your feet. On another note it shouldnt be about what you ride only the fact that you are lucky enough to be able to shred. kill yourself

I do...

...all the time. Haven't had my face stomped yet.

hm...

haha i'm still confused as to why this guy came here to rave about how great alta is and that we can't snowboard there, as if we've all been dying to. Personally i've never heard of alta which is apparently suprising considering hes making it out to be godly. also why would you ski in someone elses tracks if there is virgin snow to be tracked?

this guy

is such a tool.

You all seem to be having trouble...

You all seem to be having trouble understanding the Alta way. Perhaps I can shed a little more light on it for you guys. You believe you have a right to ride Alta because “it shouldn’t matter what you strap on your feet”. That “thinking” is naive and analogous to believing you also have a right to attend a black-tie dinner event wearing no shirt and shoes. But as common sense dictates, it’s completely appropriate for a fine restaurant to enforce a “no shirt, no shoes, no service” policy because patrons with no shirt or shoes detract from the experience for all other paying customers. Is that discrimination? Perhaps, in a way, but it’s very appropriate and completely acceptable.

You’re wrong to think the only difference between skiers and boarders is which tool(s) they strap to there feet. There are lots of other differences that are important to skiers, if not snowboarders, especially Alta skiers. Skiing at Alta is all about the powder. There are a lot of great powder skiers here but there’s a limited amount of precious Utah powder to go around. As a result, in powder skiing, just like in other sports, there are conventions and unwritten rules about how to play the game…rules about how the powder should be consumed. Those rules ensure the powder will be used in the most efficient manner, and not wasted. Snowboarders break all those rules. You don’t have to be a genius to understand it. Snowboarders destroy powder for everyone else. In one run they wreck a slope that could have been farmed by numerous skiers without one track crossing another. You all don’t get that because you’re not Alta skiers. You’ll never get it unless you’re lucky enough to some day grow up and become Alta skiers.

There are other important differences, too. At Alta, the best powder is accessed via traversing and sidestepping. Skiers leave the Collins chair and fly out the 1000-yard-long High Traverse at mach 3 to access the best powder skiing in the world. It’s efficient and it works like a well-tuned machine. Anyone who stops or even slows down on the Traverse gets rear-ended and beat to the curb like a low-rider stalled on the 405 during rush hour.

Ever tried to ski a traverse “cut” by boarders? It’s a fucking nightmare…like driving over washboard versus a nicely-paved highway. Having boarders on the High Traverse, the push up to the Backside or the sidestep out to the Castle, would ruin the experience for skiers. If that’s discrimination, so be it, but it’s the way it is and will always be. You can snivel all you want but it ain’t gonna change.

Alta is a black-tie resort. No skis, no service. Get over it.

Rasta cones, bitches

ha ha ha!

"...there are conventions and unwritten rules about how to play the game…rules about how the powder should be consumed. Those rules ensure the powder will be used in the most efficient manner, and not wasted."

Half the reason we snowboard is because there aren't rules. Football has rules. School has rules. I didn't know skiing had rules, but I guess it does, which is one more reason not to do it. I hate to say some of this because I know some sick skiers who do gnarly impressive stuff and thats rad, But this guy just doesn't understand what he is doing here. Actually neither do I.

That's what she says...

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That you're a tool?

Do you even realize that you just insulted yourself? Worst comeback ever...

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its sad to have a skier come out like this because i know a bunch of chill skiers, and for you to wreck their whole rep is stupid. we all ride at the hill, two pieces of wood or one, we are all friends and we all ride for the fun and stoke, its people like you who have to come ruin it. there are way better resorts than alta so stop acting like it is thee best. many other high class resorts have allowed snowboarding, if alta is so high class and great, why hasnt it allowed snowboarders as well?

seriously

i am going to start punching one skier a day, until it is you.
then i am going to take everything that you stand for and shove it up your pussy.

Swing away...

Well, you can swing all you want and never hit me, ‘cause I’m at Alta and you’re not. Duh!

Oh, and if you do try that at Alta, you’ll get messed up big time. Zero tolerance here, pal. Swing away. LOL!

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You seriously sound like the biggest pompous pussy on the planet.What's Alta's "black Tie" policy on me taking a dump on the very toilet seat you wipe your vagina on?

I just had a brilliant idea.Snowboard Mag should sponsor a Video contest much like Burton's.Instead of poaching the mountain,Shoot and submit video of snowbarders driving to Alta only to take a steamy turd on any common area of any restroom at alta...

This would be glorious.

weeeeeee

Next time I skin(with my splitboard) up the Grizzly Gulch cat track (made by the Alta snowcat operation), I’m not going to let the snowcat and its contents pass me. I’m going to skin right in the middle of the road so everyone in the cat has to wait till I get up to the pass. At the top, when they all start yelling and screaming at me, I’m going to smile and tell them that because some jerk on a snowboard message board tried to stir up some crap, you all got to miss at least one run today. The next day, I’m going to skin up to the top of the Collins chair and put my splitboard together. I’m going to sit on my ass with one foot strapped in, making sure skiers have to avoid me getting off the chair, asking every one of them if they have a screwdriver so I can adjust my bindings. Maybe I won’t waste my time on the latter idea, but I’m going to love holding up that snowcat next time.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh....

Wow, what a great idea! Maybe you can do the same thing on I-80 westbound around 7:45 AM tomorrow. That would be awesome, dude. Go for it…

Don’t you get it? You’re a mosquito buzzing around Alta’s head. You’re an annoyance, that’s all, and sooner or later you’re gonna get squished.

Boy ohh boy..

Did you french fry when you shoulda pizza'd at some young point in your life or what?? Sounds like you definitely need a hug. And for all these kids care at this point, you can go hug a tree- which isn't very fun when you're skatin down the hill at high speeds.

Don't reap some bad snow karma cause you just like to talk smack homie, that's as real as the fires you are startin in this house. People who talk shit usually feel like shit too, and its starting to smell in here like someone forgot to flush..

(however these SB-mag.com classics are alllwaays amusing! Laughing out loud)

I think this might be Evan Rose fucking with us.

He's way too dumb to be for real.

Fight for the little guy - Read SNOWBOARD Magazine!

Keep trying to figure it out

I’m a lot of things, but dumb ain’t one of ‘em.

haha what a joker...

Haha AFF you got us. You really had us going there for a second. But as soon as the name dropping of surf breaks and the annual salary talk broke out... it was clear this was all a big joke. No one could possibly be that big of a douche. It was fun while it lasted but it's time to reveal your master plan..... GET TO EXPLAINING DIL-HOLE.

Master plan?

Master plan? Keep Alta free! No joke, fool.

"if there is a god" ??

alta will probably stay "free" but your definately going to hell, god wouldn't let an ass crack like you anywhere near him.

Oh come on...

...can't you do any better than that? D+ for you, bitch.

Who cares.

Management and terrain is what makes a ski/snowboard area worth visiting. I'm not sure of the exact number of ski areas in the good 'ol USA, but there are more than enough to visit to worry about ever stopping by Alta. If that's the business plan of a resort, then fine. That is their choice. The fact that it's on public land doesn't matter. With the mentality that snowboarders are reckless and destroy everything in sight, things would never be that rad there anyway. With three resorts out there that cater to skiers only, that just means fewer of them that I have to worry about wherever it is that I am riding.

Powder? Ever watch how much snow a skier displaces as he schusses his way through a powder field? No one minds crossing someone's path in powder, but when there's a squiggly trench burrowed through the snow, with matching pole scrapes on either side, just call that line done. True, snowboarders don't descend shoulder to shoulder (or nut to butt in our case), but we do know how to descend and make the most out of a mountain. This isn't Hitler's army. No need to go down in a formation.

As for taking people out and being reckless, don't even go there. Skiers generally travel way faster than any given snowboarder. Ever been to Europe? Fucking scary. Those skiers are on coke or something. Hauling ass. And as for accidents, who doesn't try to blame it on the other guy. We have all been taken out by skiers, snowboarders, friends, rocks, trees, wind, ice and other random stuff. Shit, one of my most memorable wrecks was from riding over a sheet of newspaper. Don't like it, try a different sport.

Oh, and the next time you make a smooth turn without skidding, thank snowboarders for the sidecut in your skis. The next time you hit a park jump, rail or halfpipe, thank snowboarders for developing terrain parks. If you're on twintip skis...you're welcome. It's tough to say if snowboarding would be around if it wasn't for skiing, but it is safe to say that skiing would be prehistoric without snowboarding. Oh, wait. Isn't that where Alta is? Do yourself (and us) a favor, and keep Alta for yourself. Sounds like a bunch of kooks, anyway.

Man, I hate this guy....He just joined to set his little traps.

There are plenty of hills that blow Alta away.

I can name 5 right off the bat-
Jackson
Whistler
Baker
Kicking Horse
Sugar Bowl

You, my non-freind need a few clues.

1) You are obviously attention starved, who else would without being promted, join our mellow zone and instigate an argument especially with the spite and negativity that you display.

2) Nobody cares about your little purity whine either. Pure as the Mormons love for there wives. Whatever. (maybe thats a low blow, but it is Utah, and thats the running joke.)

3) Go back to your little yuppy office and tell them that " you sure told them snowboarders" in your little rant reflecting on ALta's intelligence of keeping it segregated to smug two plankers and your Antiques Roadshow bullshit pony story, You Sad, diet pepsi- Michelob-ultra drinkin, non skateboarding, narrow minded imbocile.

Truthfully, and most importantly, Not one of us gives a shit.

ALTA, Keep that shithole. You must have gotten fired from numerous jobs for not being able to keep your mouth shut.

And if you didnt read the top of this website. It says Snowboard Magazine, Not Alta Elitest Fag Mag.

Your the kind of guy that wouldn't share your herb and probably lives a wasteful, miserable, and painfully lonely existence up in your secluded sheltered cove of selfsishness!

I can sure know I speak for allot of us when we say..
We don't care!

Gary Hansen
Snowboard Mag

Its not that good. Really!

Rasta Cones for everybody!!

Stay away!

Gary, you are soooooo right. You are without a doubt a visionary…someone who just knows what is right. Alta is indeed a shithole and you would hate it, as would any other snowboarder. Do yourself and everyone else a favor…stay away. Seriously…stay away.

AltaFreeForever

I have, I will, and not because of you.

I will spend my time and energy on more positive activities.

Like rolling a joint and forgetting you, then deleting all of your hard work on this post when my Dubee goes out in about well 10 minutes..then you can come back with some other genius name an cut and paste your comments again and again and again.

Have a good night, I am going out.

Rasta Cones for everybody!!

Yeah, you enjoy that dubie, duuuuuuuude...

'cause you're gonna be somebody someday...NOT! LOL! Puff, puff...yaa phucking moron.

I'm sorry, I was just taking a shit, did you say something else?

Rasta Cones for everybody!!

Nothing you would understand.

Nothing you would understand. Now, shut up and go wipe your snatch.

Thanks for the reminder..

I'll use a scented baby wipe - ahh so cool and refreshing.

Rasta Cones for everybody!!

LOL! Martha would be proud.

LOL! Martha would be proud.

Go ahead.

Laugh it up AltaFagForever... oh, sorry. I spelled it wrong. Alta-GET-THE-FUCK-OFF-THIS-SITE-Forever. Please.

Where to begin...

Oh my, where to begin!!! There are sooooooo many things to say! I’ll keep it brief, for now…

“…there are more than enough to visit to worry about ever stopping by Alta.”

Excellent, excellent, excellent point! Please share it with your friends! Please ……

“Powder? Ever watch how much snow a skier displaces as he schusses his way through a powder field? No one minds crossing someone's path in powder, but when there's a squiggly trench burrowed through the snow, with matching pole scrapes on either side, just call that line done.”

Here we have an “opinion” born of pure and simple ignorance…ignorance of what Alta powder is and should be, and has always been. As a boarder, you simply will never understand. However, if you care to, perhaps you could start small and watch some historical Warren Miller films (not any of the recent ones that have been targeted to the young, naive and stupid snowboard market) and, assuming a minimum IQ, you will see what I mean. A talented powder skier (read: local Alta skier) will take no more that 5 yards width of the fall line to enjoy a line of pure bliss. When you consider the fact that a skier can effortlessly “hug” the tracks of the previous skier, it’s less than 5 yards. It can be repeated, time after time, for the length of the run, and each subsequent skier will ski pure, un-snowboarder-fucked-up-powder snow.

“As for taking people out and being reckless, don't even go there. Skiers generally travel way faster than any given snowboarder. Ever been to Europe?”

It’s not about speed…it’s about control, attitude and, well…brains. Yes, I have been to and skied Europe and I can tell you Europeans are intelligent, which is why snowboarding is on the decline in Europe in a big way. Europe has always been 5 – 7 years ahead of the US when it comes to skiing trends They have begun to lose their patience with and tolerance for boarders and, as a result, snowboarding has begun to decline, and will soon be extinct and completely replaced by the historically superior winter sport of skiing.

“Oh, and the next time you make a smooth turn without skidding, thank snowboarders for the sidecut in your skis. The next time you hit a park jump, rail or halfpipe, thank snowboarders for developing terrain parks. If you're on twintip skis...you're welcome. It's tough to say if snowboarding would be around if it wasn't for skiing, but it is safe to say that skiing would be prehistoric without snowboarding. Oh, wait. Isn't that where Alta is? Do yourself (and us) a favor, and keep Alta for yourself. Sounds like a bunch of kooks, anyway.”

Right…right; I’m sure the great ski racers of the past would agree with you. They would give you all the credit and certainly would not think that snowboarding technology of today is merely an unintelligent extension of the intelligent advance in skiing technology that has been marching forward since decades before the first moron strapped a “board” to his depraved body and immediately began the practice of trying to erroneously take credit for the future of snow sliding sports.

In the end, you’re exactly right…we’re a bunch of kooks and we should keep Alta for ourselves. Please, please share that message with your friends. It is so important to your happiness. Alta really never “arrived” until the advent of snowboarding and we certainly didn’t learn to enjoy Alta powder until we had shaped and fat skies, for which we can surely thank snowboarders.

Good GOD…what did I see in Utah as a child, teenager and young man. After all…Alta really SUCKED before the snowboarder influence. Thank GOD for snowboarders. My youth was wasted on something that could have been truly meaningful, if I had just waited until snowboarding was "invented" (much in the way crack was invented) before spending all that time sliding down High Boy, Stone Crusher, Eagles Nest, Eddies High Nowhere, Devils Castle, Gunsight………

Oh, the shame! The regret…….

Oh, and by the way, what the phuck is a “park”. Do I need it to enjoy Alta powder? I hope not...

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What the fuck is "phuck"? You're the one sitting here telling us that we're all morons, but you can't even spell a four letter word?

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As a european i would like to congratulate you on your insight that Europe is indeed well ahead of the US in its thinking . .

You see over here anyone can ride any mountain, whereas you still live in a segregated world (strangely your rheteric reminds me of some KKK arguments in places), and we ride in groups of skiers and boarders without thinking twice about how many planks we have under our feet

Hopefully it wont take you 5-7 years to realize that it aint about what you ride, it aint about were you ride, and it aint about how you ride . . the only thing that matters too me and should matter to you is that we are lucky enough to be able to ride, and sharing that experiance with my crew whether they are on one stick or two is still the biggest stoke i know . .

If you really want to find a sympathetic ear for your arguments i hear that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is looking to hire a resort director at Dizin, i would say you have some ideals in common . .

Ever skied Alta?

Ever skied Alta? Then you don’t get it, so shut the phuck up and stay in Europe. Please!

Ever skied Alta?

Ever skied Alta? Then you don’t get it, so shut the phuck up and stay in Europe. Please!

but thats not the point

Alta is on public land, thats what matters. The land belongs to the public, not skiers and snowlerbladers. If the resort owns the land(like Deer Valley), they should be able to do whatever they want. Alta is a sick resort on public land that needs to be open to snowboarding. I hear they're not allowed to expand or put in new chairs until they lift the snowboarding ban. Anyone know the scoop here?